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From Osclasspoint 4.4 to Osclass 5.x

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Hello.

I have some foolish friend/customer (actually 2 of them) that went months ago from Osclass 3.9 to Osclasspoint 4.4, while i told him that probably there is no way back.

So now, he wants to go with Osclass 5.x.

Anyone knows if that is possible? I have done some tests and there are several db errors and warnings.

Thanks

 
Posted : 05/09/2021 4:17 pm
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His version alters the tables and also changes location ID's so you cannot easily go back or change to 5.0.  I guess one has to go through all the tables to see which are altered and then import tables. May be Defected has more information.

 
Posted : 06/09/2021 12:11 am
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Posted by: @resta

His version alters the tables and also changes location ID's so you cannot easily go back or change to 5.0.  I guess one has to go through all the tables to see which are altered and then import tables. May be Defected has more information.

Yes i do know about locations ids changes, still he hasn't changed/added anything from those. So they are from 3.9.

Also i do know there are some new tables for locations data.

It is impossible to check each and every table. Also if i do this, what should i revert to? Very complicated and risky.

 

 
Posted : 06/09/2021 1:24 am
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@aficionado Do you know the reason why they are switching from osclasspoint to Mindstellar osclass?

I am now running osclass 3.8 and I want to upgrade. I am in a confusion, there are 3 osclass available now. I striked out osclass evo. Then osclass point and osclass by minstellar are there. Which one should i select?

 
Posted : 09/09/2021 5:27 am
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They are switching because of the "commerciality" of Osclasspoint and because their support is a bit unsupportive and rude.

What to use? I can't suggest anything. Mindstellar lacks of themes and plugins, since with 5, nothing old works. Right now i struggle with a customer to make everything work with 5, and i fail totally. He has to remove several plugins and there is no substitute for them.

 
Posted : 09/09/2021 5:10 pm
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@aficionado Do you know the reason why they are switching from osclasspoint to Mindstellar osclass?

I am now running osclass 3.8 and I want to upgrade. I am in a confusion, there are 3 osclass available now. I striked out osclass evo. Then osclass point and osclass by minstellar are there. Which one should i select?

Just keep this in mind: If you go with a different release channel, going back will/is hard.

 

 
Posted : 09/09/2021 5:12 pm
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okay

 
Posted : 11/09/2021 11:06 am
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@aficionado Can i go to osclasspoint if I upgrade to osclass 5 from mindstellar? Do you have any idea?

 
Posted : 12/09/2021 5:10 am
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@aficionado Can i go to osclasspoint if I upgrade to osclass 5 from mindstellar? Do you have any idea?

Well i have no idea. I do know that going from Osclaspoint 4.4 to Osclass from Mindstellar 5.x is not that easy, but not impossible.

But i always tell people that going back and forth to other channel releases is not a good idea, mainly because of DB structures. Most listen to me, some do not. And then i have to solve those issues 🙂

 
Posted : 12/09/2021 8:10 pm
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@aficionado okay. SO which osclass and what version are you using?

 
Posted : 14/09/2021 4:52 am
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@aficionado okay. SO which osclass and what version are you using?

5.0.2

 

 
Posted : 14/09/2021 9:57 am
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@aficionado okay. SO which osclass and what version are you using?

5.0.2

 

5.0.2 with a HUGE ammount of issues, because practically no old theme or plugin works 100% ok.

The reason may be Osclass 5 "moving-around-of-files" or/and PHP 7.4 or even PHP 8. I dunno, i'm just a webmaster.

And i'm shocked that they continue to develop version 5 without ANY theme or plugin available. Who is gonna use it that way, to a commercial/production site? No ONE. No ONE. You can't even BUY something for Osclass 5.

I do use Osclass 5 because i'm an old-timer with Osclass (8 years?) and i like to test things.

I updated some old customers as a favor to them, and i think i should have not. Because now i'm stuck .....

 

 
Posted : 14/09/2021 4:31 pm
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@aficionado okay. SO which osclass and what version are you using?

5.0.2

 

5.0.2 with a HUGE ammount of issues, because practically no old theme or plugin works 100% ok.

The reason may be Osclass 5 "moving-around-of-files" or/and PHP 7.4 or even PHP 8. I dunno, i'm just a webmaster.

And i'm shocked that they continue to develop version 5 without ANY theme or plugin available. Who is gonna use it that way, to a commercial/production site? No ONE. No ONE. You can't even BUY something for Osclass 5.

I do use Osclass 5 because i'm an old-timer with Osclass (8 years?) and i like to test things.

I updated some old customers as a favor to them, and i think i should have not. Because now i'm stuck .....

 

Okay. I think i will stay in 3.8 for sometime. Wait for things to get stable.

 

@navjottomer please check this

 

 
Posted : 15/09/2021 3:26 am
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Okay. I think i will stay in 3.8 for sometime. Wait for things to get stable.

 

Why not 3.9 ?

 
Posted : 15/09/2021 11:03 am
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@aficionado maybe

 
Posted : 16/09/2021 3:42 am
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