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 fog
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Dears, I deleted my free product here on market section, for a simple reason:

Indeed, this forum have "market" section with a upload button, but seems it can be contorned too with a manual admin interventions, to redirect to other foreign market of interests to other devs/business. The last product I saw here, have a redirection to external market.

I never, but never want my website as redirection link to any free product from me, here, when own forum have a button to upload products. And in some time, I cant see others users with external links on same market with links to external markets, using download button with a link to a external market.

When I uploaded my product here (on market section), was to people dowload it directly, and nothing to create obstacles of interest to require visit my website, to create an account, login, and dowload. So, I ask to my self, why I need contribute here my free product freely with a download direct link, when others can use your products with redirections to own external markets? That, is not a community, is a direct business strategies, with pure interests to external sales. So, my free product will don't will make part of google engine to these bulshits on this forum. Is bullshits for me and is my opinion, so dear admins, you guys can defend your interests after all like you desire. I never will defend or make part of that.

This forum seemed start well, but now I see, is possible use it like a personal market promoting what can be done by a cost. The first post I saw from this user, and he says "But its costly.": http://osclasscommunity.zetonhost.com/casual-talk/android-app/msg705/#msg705

If he and you (admins) see it like a business oportunity, and not a community without obstacles of interest, so good luck to both.

What I believed before, now I can't anymore.
I no ask to conturn it, to make my desires in my favours, it's not that. You decide what is better or not to this forum. But I never will make part of that or other similar things.

Sorry, but I needed post my reason here, about my deletion my free product on market community. Anyway, is my opinion and decision.

 
Posted : 12/11/2019 2:24 pm
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[member=67]fog[/member] To be honest with you, I did not see that plugin on the Market. I didn't visit it for a while. It is a free plugin and only download links should be posted, in case you wish to host the plugin yourself. This redirection to an external Market, especially in the case of a free plugin is not right.
I'll contact the developer.

The whole idea of the Market is for developers to advertise their free products, for users to download them freely and enjoy them.
Then if the users like plugins and themes from those developers, they can send a job inquiry to a developer and maybe ask from custom work (this is still WIP). Or developer can put a donation link.

Regarding the post from the user, everyone can express their own opinion or whatever. We are in no ways associated with Rackons and their products.

I hope you understand me and that you will stay here with us...

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Posted : 12/11/2019 3:01 pm
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[member=67]fog[/member] Forum post about the plugin and then plugin itself are now hidden and the developer is contacted.

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Posted : 12/11/2019 3:25 pm
 fog
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[member=3]WEBmods[/member], I followed and continue follow exactly what you said me before, and what you confirmed it now again.

Forum not requires any register account here to make download of free products, and I think that great. So, keeping the things by rule is keep a good reputation.

With my sincerity, I not saw a field on market to insert a custom url . In that case, to insert a link to a external market connexion. So, how this user can insert a custom link if only exists a upload button? Unless I not saw right it before.

I'm not intend cause any trouble with anyone. Like I said, and you confirm too, I just follow what you mentioned by rules and procedures to everyone. That is my motivation too, for contribute what I can here.

Please, fix the code on form, if is the case, or it can be used por other proposes less good to create a bad impact contorning what you confirmed by rules.

I will upload again, if I see all free products with direct link on download button.

Thank you for your confirmation

 
Posted : 12/11/2019 3:34 pm
 fog
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Ohh... I see now. Exists two options: a field to add download link or to upload file. I think it just need upload file, and not upload link. Or you will get troubles on future with that.

 
Posted : 12/11/2019 3:41 pm
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[member=1]Administrator[/member] Your thoughts? Should we keep the download link field?

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Posted : 12/11/2019 4:51 pm
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[member=67]fog[/member] I really appreciate your opinion.

I thought,
1, if we removed the link to the external market if they update their products how will you get an update?

1, External links will engage market owners to make free plugins and themes. one hand it will advertise their market, another hand we got a free product.

2, The direct upload will allow individual developers to share their free products. To engage them, we have a donation link input and contact information to contact for custom work.

3, Our market is not like an osclass market, Our market is just an archive of plugins and themes which will help to find plugins and themes to download.

4, I know the pain is you need to register and login to download in the external market. While people are trying to download from Rapidshare and advertised file hosting site to download for free. I thought for a good product they will not bother to register.

My personal point of view if remove the external link, Our community will never know about the existence of External market's free products which they could use for their osclass website.

My important is improving, helping the user's osclass website rather than markets.

[member=3]WEBmods[/member] my decision is not a final decision, but our community decision is. I would like to make a pole or ask everyone if they want to remove or not. also I would like to create a board for Market development so anyone can give their suggestions.

 

 
Posted : 14/11/2019 6:39 am
 fog
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[member=67]fog[/member] I really appreciate your opinion.

I thought,
1, if we removed the link to the external market if they update their products how will you get an update?

1, External links will engage market owners to make free plugins and themes. one hand it will advertise their market, another hand we got a free product.

2, The direct upload will allow individual developers to share their free products. To engage them, we have a donation link input and contact information to contact for custom work.

3, Our market is not like an osclass market, Our market is just an archive of plugins and themes which will help to find plugins and themes to download.

4, I know the pain is you need to register and login to download in the external market. While people are trying to download from Rapidshare and advertised file hosting site to download for free. I thought for a good product they will not bother to register.

My personal point of view if remove the external link, Our community will never know about the existence of External market's free products which they could use for their osclass website.

My important is improving, helping the user's osclass website rather than markets.

[member=3]WEBmods[/member] my decision is not a final decision, but our community decision is. I would like to make a pole or ask everyone if they want to remove or not. also I would like to create a board for Market development so anyone can give their suggestions.
 

I don't know if I can understand tottaly your point view. Because this  can be very simple to solve. "Market" is osclass script.

What I suggest is make a page to rules on market, if not exists yet. Indeed, is not a market, because a market have sellers, buyers, sales, evolves amounts and transactions, and it need a lot of rules.

So, in this case, market can be "market" or other name, no matters, and is not a priority analisys to see a properly name and rules to a real market.

What people need to know is the main rules before upload/download directly from forum/market. Just that, pure and simple.

All content is free to download directly from forum / market. That already exists.

Why this need fields to external links on upload page? No make sense to me, wen any dev can upload directly own file product.

In same way he can edit your product uploading with a new version. So, will replace the existing file, with a new upload of same product in question.

Devs not have any obligation to update your free products in any circunstance (that is optional).

So, if some other people need an update to own interests, they can contact dev, and that make sense. But how people can do it?

Is very simple: any dev can add your own information in your products inside of help page of own product (including github link). On own product... is not the same, at on own public market page. It  inside of file of own product. That make all difference, and will avoid using these extra fields on upload page, on my opinion.

So any person can see that o help page of a plugin or theme, and no need open a specific file to see that info on index page or something similar.

In my opinion, dev only need see the upload button to upload your(s) file(s), and no need have a field to external link to users make download, and no need a external link to add github link.

Like I mentioned before, github link can be added on help page of product, of author/company, etc. If dev not inserted any help page, or with few information, that is not a concern of forum / market.

But dev can edit own product replace it again freely with that info. That's why main simple rules can make the difference.

Why using these fields on upload page, when someone can add other links, like external markets, and whatever he decide to do? If I decide using these links to add my own market (and this can't make part of the rules) you will ever have daily time to check it all the time?

Or this make part of rules, and any dev can add a direct link to own market? If that is the case, "market" is not for me, I have my option to not support that, directly or indirectly.

If this no make part of main rules, I think you need a process to avoid that problem, and all people will stay happy without troubles. That is what I think.

If a dev need a promotion of your own products, he can do it just uploading your free products, and any person can make the direct download from market, without any register account here.

I am fan of simplicity, and of friendly methods. In the same way, I'm agree to a best and free community without obstacles of comercial interests.

What belongs to forum/market need belongs to forum/market with your simplicity. If it is not a main rule, needed to be, to avoid that type of external connexions, when the priority of users is have a simple method to make a direct download.

If it cannot be possible for diverses reasons, is my opinion to not agree, just that.

What you will decide or not, I'm here to continue follow the community forum to helping with what I can.

Thank you for your interest in this matter.

 
Posted : 14/11/2019 7:24 pm
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[member=1]Administrator[/member] [member=67]fog[/member] We can remove the download link field from ads, but add a website field to user settings so the developer's site can be promoted in that way.

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Posted : 14/11/2019 8:30 pm
 fog
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[member=1]Administrator[/member] [member=67]fog[/member] We can remove the download link field from ads, but add a website field to user settings so the developer's site can be promoted in that way.

Guys, the only problem is download button compromised with a external link, if dev opted for use that, will mess with download link to users.

No needs of that. Use only internal direct link to download, and done. Developer or company upload the file, and script add the internal link to download, just that.

Unless, you have a problem with storage space on your server? I don't think so, because these type of files not store much space.
Or do you need more people to review files after upload to osclasscommunity.com?
I just need understand your worries and ideias.

The others external links you decide to add on upload page, is indifferent, because they not will mess with downloads, if it have a direct link to download, from osclasscommunity.com.

Promoting devs site? Use a extra field to display link inside of product description page.

 
Posted : 14/11/2019 9:49 pm
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[member=1]Administrator[/member] [member=67]fog[/member] We can remove the download link field from ads, but add a website field to user settings so the developer's site can be promoted in that way.

Guys, the only problem is download button compromised with a external link, if dev opted for use that, will mess with download link to users.

No needs of that. Use only internal direct link to download, and done. Developer or company upload the file, and script add the internal link to download, just that.

Unless, you have a problem with storage space on your server? I don't think so, because these type of files not store much space.
Or do you need more people to review files after upload to osclasscommunity.com?
I just need understand your worries and ideias.

The others external links you decide to add on upload page, is indifferent, because they not will mess with downloads, if it have a direct link to download, from osclasscommunity.com.

Promoting devs site? Use a extra field to display link inside of product description page.

Storage is not a problem. Dev can upload directly.
Download link was an alternative for that...

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Posted : 14/11/2019 10:01 pm
 fog
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That is what I can't understand. Why it need an alternative?
Well, no matter. I just gave my idea. What can be good for some, for others maybe can not be.

 
Posted : 14/11/2019 10:09 pm
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Thank you [member=67]fog[/member].
[member=3]WEBmods[/member] external link is removed, will mail to all market owner to upload the direct file.

 
Posted : 15/11/2019 12:07 pm
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[member=1]Administrator[/member] Ok.

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Posted : 15/11/2019 4:10 pm
 fog
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Thank you [member=67]fog[/member].
[member=3]WEBmods[/member] external link is removed, will mail to all market owner to upload the direct file.

Of nothing. I only advised taking account user side, when he will need make a direct download of a free product.

 
Posted : 15/11/2019 5:06 pm
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